Comments on: Apple Responds to the FCC with Illogical Arguments http://www.riverturn.com/blog/?p=510 Riverturn Blog Tue, 29 Jun 2010 05:01:41 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Black Swan « Riverturn Blog http://www.riverturn.com/blog/?p=510&cpage=1#comment-5042 Black Swan « Riverturn Blog Wed, 13 Jan 2010 19:10:17 +0000 http://www.riverturn.com/blog/?p=510#comment-5042 [...] the latest version we sent them for review. We hope for the best, but we are not naïve and with no forthcoming news from the FCC we don’t expect that to change in the very near future. The unfortunate consequence is that [...] [...] the latest version we sent them for review. We hope for the best, but we are not naïve and with no forthcoming news from the FCC we don’t expect that to change in the very near future. The unfortunate consequence is that [...]

]]> By: About Mobility » Blog Archive » My Apologies - And about Apple vs. the Developer Community http://www.riverturn.com/blog/?p=510&cpage=1#comment-1394 About Mobility » Blog Archive » My Apologies - And about Apple vs. the Developer Community Sun, 30 Aug 2009 19:41:14 +0000 http://www.riverturn.com/blog/?p=510#comment-1394 [...] Apple Responds to the FCC with Illogical Arguments (Riverturn) [...] [...] Apple Responds to the FCC with Illogical Arguments (Riverturn) [...]

]]> By: Told you so. (VoiceCentral dev weighs in on Apple’s lies to FCC) | Robert N. Lee.com http://www.riverturn.com/blog/?p=510&cpage=1#comment-1346 Told you so. (VoiceCentral dev weighs in on Apple’s lies to FCC) | Robert N. Lee.com Fri, 28 Aug 2009 01:49:31 +0000 http://www.riverturn.com/blog/?p=510#comment-1346 [...] Mr. Duerr says the same things I did: Apple’s lying and did not describe Google Voice or any apps ... [...] [...] Mr. Duerr says the same things I did: Apple’s lying and did not describe Google Voice or any apps … [...]

]]> By: Critics call shenanigans after Apple, AT&T letters to FCC | Ethiopian News http://www.riverturn.com/blog/?p=510&cpage=1#comment-1311 Critics call shenanigans after Apple, AT&T letters to FCC | Ethiopian News Wed, 26 Aug 2009 19:21:50 +0000 http://www.riverturn.com/blog/?p=510#comment-1311 [...] offers third party vendors "does not make it possible to 'replace' the iPhone's core anything," argues Kevin Duerr of Riverturn, whose VoiceCentral app has also been put on hold by Apple, according to [...] [...] offers third party vendors “does not make it possible to ‘replace’ the iPhone’s core anything,” argues Kevin Duerr of Riverturn, whose VoiceCentral app has also been put on hold by Apple, according to [...]

]]> By: F http://www.riverturn.com/blog/?p=510&cpage=1#comment-1277 F Tue, 25 Aug 2009 02:14:37 +0000 http://www.riverturn.com/blog/?p=510#comment-1277 If AT&T (the US carrier for iPhone) don't want Skype and other VoIP over 3G why in other countries we cannot get Skype over other network's 3G? Simple question but no reply, because Apple doesn't care about International markets. If AT&T (the US carrier for iPhone) don’t want Skype and other VoIP over 3G why in other countries we cannot get Skype over other network’s 3G? Simple question but no reply, because Apple doesn’t care about International markets.

]]> By: Critics call shenanigans after Apple, AT&T letters to FCC « ankush narula http://www.riverturn.com/blog/?p=510&cpage=1#comment-1273 Critics call shenanigans after Apple, AT&T letters to FCC « ankush narula Mon, 24 Aug 2009 21:06:55 +0000 http://www.riverturn.com/blog/?p=510#comment-1273 [...] “does not make it possible to ‘replace’ the iPhone’s core anything,” argues Kevin Duerr of Riverturn, whose VoiceCentral app has also been put on hold by Apple, according to [...] [...] “does not make it possible to ‘replace’ the iPhone’s core anything,” argues Kevin Duerr of Riverturn, whose VoiceCentral app has also been put on hold by Apple, according to [...]

]]> By: Twitter Trackbacks for Apple Responds to the FCC with Illogical Arguments « Riverturn Blog and Talk Back [riverturn.com] on Topsy.com http://www.riverturn.com/blog/?p=510&cpage=1#comment-1251 Twitter Trackbacks for Apple Responds to the FCC with Illogical Arguments « Riverturn Blog and Talk Back [riverturn.com] on Topsy.com Sun, 23 Aug 2009 15:05:56 +0000 http://www.riverturn.com/blog/?p=510#comment-1251 [...] Apple Responds to the FCC with Illogical Arguments « Riverturn Blog and Talk Back www.riverturn.com/blog/?p=510 – view page – cached #Riverturn Blog and Talk Back RSS Feed Riverturn Blog and Talk Back Atom — From the page [...] [...] Apple Responds to the FCC with Illogical Arguments « Riverturn Blog and Talk Back http://www.riverturn.com/blog/?p=510 – view page – cached #Riverturn Blog and Talk Back RSS Feed Riverturn Blog and Talk Back Atom — From the page [...]

]]> By: Justin Bradshaw http://www.riverturn.com/blog/?p=510&cpage=1#comment-1217 Justin Bradshaw Sat, 22 Aug 2009 00:20:27 +0000 http://www.riverturn.com/blog/?p=510#comment-1217 Wow, that's a scathing take down of Apple's letter. I pretty much agree, too. AT&T said it was Apple... and Apple said it was Apple. So there you go. That's solved. Now for the why... I also noticed their use of "replace" and thought "how could they "disable" the iPhone Visual Voicemail? They can't do that, can they? And you confirmed that the SDK wouldn't allow that. They're just trying to pull the wool over some regulators' eyes on that one. Total BS! I think we should take them at their word, though, that it hasn't been rejected... just in further review. That means that with enough pressure, they will probably approve it. In fact this seems to me like the first step toward a recant on all of this... especially if the FCC realizes their BS too. And the concern over Gmail contacts? Absurd! Even IF Google is fully syncing contacts (which it should have as an option) why is that any different than Apple syncing them via iTunes? (oh, wait, it's a control thing again). And your lack of "specific guidance"? Amazing, especially after reading your post about Richard weeks ago. They've got a lot of nerve. So yeah, I'm pissed too. I use VoiceCentral and think it's great... and (no offense) a Google branded app would be even better... and I too have considered "replacing" the iPhone for true Google Voice functionality... but I can't... just can't... so... hard... to.... resist Apple's forcefield.... Wow, that’s a scathing take down of Apple’s letter. I pretty much agree, too. AT&T said it was Apple… and Apple said it was Apple. So there you go. That’s solved. Now for the why…

I also noticed their use of “replace” and thought “how could they “disable” the iPhone Visual Voicemail? They can’t do that, can they? And you confirmed that the SDK wouldn’t allow that. They’re just trying to pull the wool over some regulators’ eyes on that one. Total BS!

I think we should take them at their word, though, that it hasn’t been rejected… just in further review. That means that with enough pressure, they will probably approve it. In fact this seems to me like the first step toward a recant on all of this… especially if the FCC realizes their BS too.

And the concern over Gmail contacts? Absurd! Even IF Google is fully syncing contacts (which it should have as an option) why is that any different than Apple syncing them via iTunes? (oh, wait, it’s a control thing again).

And your lack of “specific guidance”? Amazing, especially after reading your post about Richard weeks ago. They’ve got a lot of nerve.

So yeah, I’m pissed too. I use VoiceCentral and think it’s great… and (no offense) a Google branded app would be even better… and I too have considered “replacing” the iPhone for true Google Voice functionality… but I can’t… just can’t… so… hard… to…. resist Apple’s forcefield….

]]> By: Aaron http://www.riverturn.com/blog/?p=510&cpage=1#comment-1216 Aaron Sat, 22 Aug 2009 00:20:24 +0000 http://www.riverturn.com/blog/?p=510#comment-1216 I was also confused by Apple's mention that your contacts end up on Google's servers, when in fact that very feature was added to OS X's own Address Book program! I don't see the issue there. I was also confused by Apple’s mention that your contacts end up on Google’s servers, when in fact that very feature was added to OS X’s own Address Book program! I don’t see the issue there.

]]>