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		<title>By: Black Swan &#171; Riverturn Blog and Talk Back</title>
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		<dc:creator>Black Swan &#171; Riverturn Blog and Talk Back</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 21:14:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Swan  Many of you were lucky enough to get VoiceCentral before Apple pulled the rug out from under us. Now users have reported that they are unable to dial using VoiceCentral (yes, we still try to [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Swan  Many of you were lucky enough to get VoiceCentral before Apple pulled the rug out from under us. Now users have reported that they are unable to dial using VoiceCentral (yes, we still try to [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Risk Management in iPhone Projects &#124; akosma software</title>
		<link>http://www.riverturn.com/blog/?p=455&#038;cpage=7#comment-4273</link>
		<dc:creator>Risk Management in iPhone Projects &#124; akosma software</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 11:21:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] now. In just one year of existence, the App Store seems to have evolved from the hottest to the lamest status, without any time to breathe in the middle, but with some warning signs every so [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Flying Tomato Design : Innovative Web Site Design, Development, Branding, and SEO</title>
		<link>http://www.riverturn.com/blog/?p=455&#038;cpage=7#comment-2838</link>
		<dc:creator>Flying Tomato Design : Innovative Web Site Design, Development, Branding, and SEO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 18:33:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Repeated emails yesterday to Apple have still been ignored at this point. We did receive a voicemail at our main office from the same Richard who called our competitor. Unfortunately it wasn’t until today that we were able to connect for our “conversation”. The word conversation really doesn’t cover it because what transpired was not informative by design and felt like theater of the absurd. It went roughly like this: Richard: “I’m calling to let you know that VoiceCentral has been removed from the App Store because it duplicates features of the iPhone.” [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Repeated emails yesterday to Apple have still been ignored at this point. We did receive a voicemail at our main office from the same Richard who called our competitor. Unfortunately it wasn’t until today that we were able to connect for our “conversation”. The word conversation really doesn’t cover it because what transpired was not informative by design and felt like theater of the absurd. It went roughly like this: Richard: “I’m calling to let you know that VoiceCentral has been removed from the App Store because it duplicates features of the iPhone.” [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Google Fan</title>
		<link>http://www.riverturn.com/blog/?p=455&#038;cpage=7#comment-2337</link>
		<dc:creator>Google Fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 05:26:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Android, Android, Android.  Open Source - true open source is the future, Apple and Microsoft will be forced to change or fade away.  I can do almost anything on my G1, and then I rooted the system and started tweaking everything and now I really can do anything.  I have apps that function contradictorily to Google and T-mobile&#039;s original intent (for example I can tether my laptop to my phone and use edge or 3g for WiFi)

Anyways, I am surprised there is so little discussion about Google/Android on this forum.

The era of Microsoft or Apple is ending...  I&#039;m calling it, Google = worlds #1 developer of software/internet/mobile phone os/pc operating systems/and open source applications for all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Android, Android, Android.  Open Source &#8211; true open source is the future, Apple and Microsoft will be forced to change or fade away.  I can do almost anything on my G1, and then I rooted the system and started tweaking everything and now I really can do anything.  I have apps that function contradictorily to Google and T-mobile&#8217;s original intent (for example I can tether my laptop to my phone and use edge or 3g for WiFi)</p>
<p>Anyways, I am surprised there is so little discussion about Google/Android on this forum.</p>
<p>The era of Microsoft or Apple is ending&#8230;  I&#8217;m calling it, Google = worlds #1 developer of software/internet/mobile phone os/pc operating systems/and open source applications for all.</p>
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		<title>By: Ah Clem</title>
		<link>http://www.riverturn.com/blog/?p=455&#038;cpage=7#comment-1796</link>
		<dc:creator>Ah Clem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 22:05:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some of us obviously never learn...  Some of us are too young to remember...

When the Apple II came out years (decades) ago it was GREAT!!!  The birth of the personal computer, WOW HOW COOL...

Heck I still have one and when I&#039;m feeling nostalgic I plug it in and it still works. LOL  It was a open development environment right down to the hardware level.  Why if you were so inclined you could even make your own cards, write your own assembly code (6502 yikes) the machine was pretty much an open book...

Then came the Apple III and then the Mac.  The Mac&#039;s GUI blew everyone away (except the developers from Xerox who wrote it). Then Apple flexed their sphincter and locked down all development and low level information.   And they paid for it dearly when IBM followed by MS came along with their PC product (got one of those too, that still rips along at 4.7 Mhz lol) and was WAY friendlier to the developer community.  That openness was one of the things that allowed them to grab the +90% market that MS and the PC now occupy.  Of course MS has also severely tightened up it&#039;s sphincter as well with it&#039;s &quot;Microsoft Approved&quot; scheme.  

Seems to me they&#039;re (Apple) doing it again, and all I can say is I hope they get their asses handed to them on the plate of a free market.  Though I do feel sorry for the development companies and users who get ground up in the process...

Given time I believe Apple will lose market share again.  Sure they&#039;ve come out with the Iphone and it&#039;s a front runner right now, but like the Mac, and soon the Ipod (another Pain in the Ass) product, other companies will produce similar products with similar form and function.   Same mistakes warrant similar results, and it&#039;s obvious Apple will NEVER learn...

Oh and btw, Open Source RULES!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some of us obviously never learn&#8230;  Some of us are too young to remember&#8230;</p>
<p>When the Apple II came out years (decades) ago it was GREAT!!!  The birth of the personal computer, WOW HOW COOL&#8230;</p>
<p>Heck I still have one and when I&#8217;m feeling nostalgic I plug it in and it still works. LOL  It was a open development environment right down to the hardware level.  Why if you were so inclined you could even make your own cards, write your own assembly code (6502 yikes) the machine was pretty much an open book&#8230;</p>
<p>Then came the Apple III and then the Mac.  The Mac&#8217;s GUI blew everyone away (except the developers from Xerox who wrote it). Then Apple flexed their sphincter and locked down all development and low level information.   And they paid for it dearly when IBM followed by MS came along with their PC product (got one of those too, that still rips along at 4.7 Mhz lol) and was WAY friendlier to the developer community.  That openness was one of the things that allowed them to grab the +90% market that MS and the PC now occupy.  Of course MS has also severely tightened up it&#8217;s sphincter as well with it&#8217;s &#8220;Microsoft Approved&#8221; scheme.  </p>
<p>Seems to me they&#8217;re (Apple) doing it again, and all I can say is I hope they get their asses handed to them on the plate of a free market.  Though I do feel sorry for the development companies and users who get ground up in the process&#8230;</p>
<p>Given time I believe Apple will lose market share again.  Sure they&#8217;ve come out with the Iphone and it&#8217;s a front runner right now, but like the Mac, and soon the Ipod (another Pain in the Ass) product, other companies will produce similar products with similar form and function.   Same mistakes warrant similar results, and it&#8217;s obvious Apple will NEVER learn&#8230;</p>
<p>Oh and btw, Open Source RULES!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Marty Stepp &#187; The iPhone sucks.</title>
		<link>http://www.riverturn.com/blog/?p=455&#038;cpage=7#comment-1615</link>
		<dc:creator>Marty Stepp &#187; The iPhone sucks.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 22:10:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: My Apologies – And about Apple vs. the Developer Community « Austin Entrepreneur Network</title>
		<link>http://www.riverturn.com/blog/?p=455&#038;cpage=7#comment-1397</link>
		<dc:creator>My Apologies – And about Apple vs. the Developer Community « Austin Entrepreneur Network</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 22:10:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the developer community. For a good example of what I’m talking about, read the blog post There’s No App for That &#8211; the nightmare experiences by iPhone app developer Riverturn (I know Kevin Duerr indirectly [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the developer community. For a good example of what I’m talking about, read the blog post There’s No App for That &#8211; the nightmare experiences by iPhone app developer Riverturn (I know Kevin Duerr indirectly [...]</p>
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		<title>By: About Mobility &#187; Blog Archive &#187; My Apologies - And about Apple vs. the Developer Community</title>
		<link>http://www.riverturn.com/blog/?p=455&#038;cpage=7#comment-1392</link>
		<dc:creator>About Mobility &#187; Blog Archive &#187; My Apologies - And about Apple vs. the Developer Community</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 19:39:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the developer community. For a good example of what I&#8217;m talking about, read the blog post There’s No App for That - the nightmare experiences by iPhone app developer Riverturn (I know Kevin Duerr indirectly [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Budhabong</title>
		<link>http://www.riverturn.com/blog/?p=455&#038;cpage=7#comment-1353</link>
		<dc:creator>Budhabong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 14:33:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a very simple solution to this problem, developers need to create more apps and start selling them using Cydia Store and take down Goliath (AKA: Apple) once and for all, competition is the key to success and apple is not allowing anyone to compete against them. So far the Cydia Store has better and more useful apps/ system improvements than any other app in the apple app store ( sorry store developers but it&#039;s true). I belive it&#039;s Time to think outside the Apple! ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a very simple solution to this problem, developers need to create more apps and start selling them using Cydia Store and take down Goliath (AKA: Apple) once and for all, competition is the key to success and apple is not allowing anyone to compete against them. So far the Cydia Store has better and more useful apps/ system improvements than any other app in the apple app store ( sorry store developers but it&#8217;s true). I belive it&#8217;s Time to think outside the Apple! <img src='http://www.riverturn.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Apple’s FCC Response Infuriates Google Voice App Developer &#124; Ethiopian News</title>
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		<dc:creator>Apple’s FCC Response Infuriates Google Voice App Developer &#124; Ethiopian News</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 19:46:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Duerr three days after VoiceCentral was removed from the app store, but was unable to provide specific, useful information to Duerr details beyond the fact that “VoiceCentral has been removed from the App [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Duerr three days after VoiceCentral was removed from the app store, but was unable to provide specific, useful information to Duerr details beyond the fact that “VoiceCentral has been removed from the App [...]</p>
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